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	<description>The danger isn&#039;t going too far.  It&#039;s that we don&#039;t go far enough.</description>
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		<title>Comment on The Shop &#8211; Open thread by citizenofmanassas</title>
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		<dc:creator>citizenofmanassas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 16:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not discreet if it is hanging in a window for all to see.   There is nothing wrong with such items of course.  It&#039;s the location of the store and how they will marketed and sold that is the problem.  

What is &quot;legal health services&quot;  Is that what &quot;progressives&quot; are calling baby murder these days?   Talk about cowards, can&#039;t even stand up and call it what it really is.  

But, I suppose it&#039;s progress won by the libs when women can have their babies killed on demand, etc,, etc.   Funny though too that it seems more and more women are also in counseling these days.   Though, I suppose there is no connection at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not discreet if it is hanging in a window for all to see.   There is nothing wrong with such items of course.  It&#8217;s the location of the store and how they will marketed and sold that is the problem.  </p>
<p>What is &#8220;legal health services&#8221;  Is that what &#8220;progressives&#8221; are calling baby murder these days?   Talk about cowards, can&#8217;t even stand up and call it what it really is.  </p>
<p>But, I suppose it&#8217;s progress won by the libs when women can have their babies killed on demand, etc,, etc.   Funny though too that it seems more and more women are also in counseling these days.   Though, I suppose there is no connection at all.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Shop &#8211; Open thread by Cindy Brookshire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cindy Brookshire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 15:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out another woman-owned business in Old Town Manassas, been there for years:
www.magnificentbellydance.com

They&#039;ve danced at the Harris Pavilion, in the Christmas Parade (scheduled again this year), at the Prince William County Fair.  I believe the City&#039;s recreation dept even listed their classes.

Funny how &quot;progressive&quot; goes back centuries.  So do dirty minds.  What is it about women&#039;s sexuality, whether it&#039;s access to legal health services, breastfeeding in public or buying discreet lingerie that gets people so upset?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out another woman-owned business in Old Town Manassas, been there for years:<br />
<a href="http://www.magnificentbellydance.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.magnificentbellydance.com</a></p>
<p>They&#8217;ve danced at the Harris Pavilion, in the Christmas Parade (scheduled again this year), at the Prince William County Fair.  I believe the City&#8217;s recreation dept even listed their classes.</p>
<p>Funny how &#8220;progressive&#8221; goes back centuries.  So do dirty minds.  What is it about women&#8217;s sexuality, whether it&#8217;s access to legal health services, breastfeeding in public or buying discreet lingerie that gets people so upset?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Shop &#8211; Open thread by citizenofmanassas</title>
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		<dc:creator>citizenofmanassas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 13:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cindy,

I guess we should aspire to be more like Baltimore?  Have our own red light district, right?   After all it&#039;s only art right?    Do you think there is a waiting list of families wanting to move into that part of Charm City?   

There&#039;s a reason why many if not the majority of Americans do not want to live in &quot;Art&quot; districts, and why many people do not want to live next to these types of stores.    

But, keep thinking in your oh so progressive mind that having a bunch of these types of shops would be a great thing for the City.   


How is this shop going to go over for the Fall Festival, or the Railroad festival?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cindy,</p>
<p>I guess we should aspire to be more like Baltimore?  Have our own red light district, right?   After all it&#8217;s only art right?    Do you think there is a waiting list of families wanting to move into that part of Charm City?   </p>
<p>There&#8217;s a reason why many if not the majority of Americans do not want to live in &#8220;Art&#8221; districts, and why many people do not want to live next to these types of stores.    </p>
<p>But, keep thinking in your oh so progressive mind that having a bunch of these types of shops would be a great thing for the City.   </p>
<p>How is this shop going to go over for the Fall Festival, or the Railroad festival?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Shop &#8211; Open thread by citizenofmanassas</title>
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		<dc:creator>citizenofmanassas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 13:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s women lib.  Ya, baby, you&#039;ve come a long way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s women lib.  Ya, baby, you&#8217;ve come a long way.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Shop &#8211; Open thread by Patty Mueller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patty Mueller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 01:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and the modest person in me needs to point out that I&#039;ve never been to either of those shops nor had ever heard of them before the latest event.  I just googled them.  And of course, now my computer keeps automatically offering me Frederick&#039;s of Hollywood advertisements.  Ah!  Modern technology - how lovely!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and the modest person in me needs to point out that I&#8217;ve never been to either of those shops nor had ever heard of them before the latest event.  I just googled them.  And of course, now my computer keeps automatically offering me Frederick&#8217;s of Hollywood advertisements.  Ah!  Modern technology &#8211; how lovely!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Shop &#8211; Open thread by Patty Mueller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patty Mueller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 01:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, that&#039;s where we can both agree.  I wish the owner had been a better neighbor by being more open and up front about the nature of her business.  Randy, I don&#039;t think people are objecting to the condoms and the erotic magazines.  It&#039;s the sex toys and the fetish wear that are getting people up in arms.  Cindy, I hope Fashion Fantasy is what it turns out to be like.  My understanding from reading the description on the website is that it will be more like La Teche in Old Town Alexandria.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, that&#8217;s where we can both agree.  I wish the owner had been a better neighbor by being more open and up front about the nature of her business.  Randy, I don&#8217;t think people are objecting to the condoms and the erotic magazines.  It&#8217;s the sex toys and the fetish wear that are getting people up in arms.  Cindy, I hope Fashion Fantasy is what it turns out to be like.  My understanding from reading the description on the website is that it will be more like La Teche in Old Town Alexandria.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Shop &#8211; Open thread by Cindy Brookshire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cindy Brookshire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 01:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would like to see the same magnanimity on the part of our delegate instead of suggestions of a &quot;sustained group of two or three volunteers standing in front of, or near the shop, with a video camera doing a live feed to the internet&quot; (from an email marketing piece) or statements like &quot;I know city [officials] are very upset and trying to find a way to get rid of the shop.  And I&#039;m glad they are&quot; in The Washington Post&#039;s Prince William section today.

I just hope the news from the closed session is good and no lawsuits go flying.

There&#039;s a store called &quot;Fashion Fantasy&quot; on Route 28 near the McDonalds -- a visit there would probably give you a good idea of the type of merchandise this boutique would carry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would like to see the same magnanimity on the part of our delegate instead of suggestions of a &#8220;sustained group of two or three volunteers standing in front of, or near the shop, with a video camera doing a live feed to the internet&#8221; (from an email marketing piece) or statements like &#8220;I know city [officials] are very upset and trying to find a way to get rid of the shop.  And I&#8217;m glad they are&#8221; in The Washington Post&#8217;s Prince William section today.</p>
<p>I just hope the news from the closed session is good and no lawsuits go flying.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a store called &#8220;Fashion Fantasy&#8221; on Route 28 near the McDonalds &#8212; a visit there would probably give you a good idea of the type of merchandise this boutique would carry.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Public Meeting on Tuesday by AndyH</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndyH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 01:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ray

Don&#039;t know what the deal is with Jackson&#039;s meeting.

A</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ray</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t know what the deal is with Jackson&#8217;s meeting.</p>
<p>A</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Shop &#8211; Open thread by Randy Fobes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Fobes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 00:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of the articles mentioned are not what most of the world considers &#039;pornography.&#039;   Most customers in shops selling erotic material are women.  Some are couples and there are a few men buying their wives or girlfirends a surprise.  

How have we managed to walk past Victoria&#039;s Secret and condom displays in Giant and CVS all these years?.  Do we keep our kids out of the mall and the grocery stores?  How about Barnes and Noble because Playboy and Penthouse are sold there?   

Cindy Brookshire is right.  Additionally, I think a lot of men simply don&#039;t understand erotica shops that cater to women.   K K Temptations might just be a shot in the arm to Old Town, a new revitalization, as it were.  

It appears that too many people are using kids as an excuse to avoid their own uneasiness with the subject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of the articles mentioned are not what most of the world considers &#8216;pornography.&#8217;   Most customers in shops selling erotic material are women.  Some are couples and there are a few men buying their wives or girlfirends a surprise.  </p>
<p>How have we managed to walk past Victoria&#8217;s Secret and condom displays in Giant and CVS all these years?.  Do we keep our kids out of the mall and the grocery stores?  How about Barnes and Noble because Playboy and Penthouse are sold there?   </p>
<p>Cindy Brookshire is right.  Additionally, I think a lot of men simply don&#8217;t understand erotica shops that cater to women.   K K Temptations might just be a shot in the arm to Old Town, a new revitalization, as it were.  </p>
<p>It appears that too many people are using kids as an excuse to avoid their own uneasiness with the subject.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Shop &#8211; Open thread by Dan Arnold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Arnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 23:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear what you&#039;re saying, Patty.  I guess the challenge is we don&#039;t really know what the nature of the shop is.  It sounds like they are changing their story a bit.  I&#039;m not really confident that what they are saying now will match what they actually sell after the store opens.

I personally am about as laissez faire as you can get when it comes to free trade.  On the other hand, I believe a community&#039;s mores and sensitivities should be and must be taken into account when a sexually-oriented business plans to open.  

It would be nice to see some magnanimity on the part of KK&#039;s - to have them release a statement that, while they believe they have every right to open on Battle Street, they respect the concerns of those who are opposed to such a store on and that they are going to look for a different location.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear what you&#8217;re saying, Patty.  I guess the challenge is we don&#8217;t really know what the nature of the shop is.  It sounds like they are changing their story a bit.  I&#8217;m not really confident that what they are saying now will match what they actually sell after the store opens.</p>
<p>I personally am about as laissez faire as you can get when it comes to free trade.  On the other hand, I believe a community&#8217;s mores and sensitivities should be and must be taken into account when a sexually-oriented business plans to open.  </p>
<p>It would be nice to see some magnanimity on the part of KK&#8217;s &#8211; to have them release a statement that, while they believe they have every right to open on Battle Street, they respect the concerns of those who are opposed to such a store on and that they are going to look for a different location.</p>
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